Democrats, Republicans, and the Need for Alternatives

W.J. Astore

The last real Democratic President was Jimmy Carter. The last U.S. election offering a real alternative vision was George McGovern versus Richard Nixon in 1972.

Since then, Democratic Presidents like Clinton, Obama, and Biden have been DINOs, or Democrats in name only. In a rare moment of honesty, Obama admitted his administration had echoed the policies of “moderate” Republicans. Friendly to Wall Street, banking interests, corporations, the military-industrial complex, and the usual assortment of oligarchs. Obama’s health care plan was a corporate-friendly sellout that echoed the plan put together by Republicans like Mitt Romney. The DINOs fully support forever war and huge military budgets; Obama was quite happy to admit America had “tortured some folks” and that he’d gotten very good at ordering people to be killed, mainly via assassination by drone. It’s a far cry from Jimmy Carter trying to put human rights at the center of his foreign policy in the late 1970s.

Democrats began to move rightwards after McGovern’s resounding defeat in 1972. They haven’t stopped this rightward drift; indeed, it’s accelerated. The Republicans responded by embracing men like Trump as they found plenty of room even further to the right of the DINOs. America, Gore Vidal once said, basically has one property party with two right wings, and that’s only become truer and more obvious over the last fifty years.

What is to be done? We need viable alternatives, but of course the game is rigged, as Matthew Hoh, principled candidate for the Senate in North Carolina, discovered as Democrats conspired to keep him off the ballot, even though his efforts with the Green Party were more than sufficient to earn him a place on that ballot. Both parties, Democrat and Republican, will do anything to keep their duopoly while also endlessly punching each other. Neither party serves the interests of the people.

Perhaps Caitlin Johnstone can offer some hope, or at least a diagnosis for the right path ahead. Here’s what she had to say in her latest post about how the political system in America is structured and manipulated for the benefits of the powerful:

1. Use narrative manipulation to divide the population into a roughly 50/50 ideological split.

2. Ensure you control both of those factions.

3. Convince everyone that the only reason nothing changes is because their half of the population doesn’t win enough elections.

Everyone’s pulling on a rope that doesn’t lead anywhere and doesn’t do anything, convinced by powerful manipulators that they’re engaged in a life-or-death tug o’ war match of existential importance. Meanwhile the powerful just do as they like, completely indifferent to that spectacle and its back-and-forth exchanges.

A group is artificially split into two sides and told to pull a rope in opposite directions while someone else stands back and shoots them all with a BB gun. When they complain about the welts, they’re told it’s happening because their side isn’t pulling hard enough. But really they’d be getting shot no matter what they did.

This doesn’t mean give up, it just means give up on the fake tug o’ war game. If you’re playing tug o’ war while someone rummages through your handbag looking for cash, the first step to stopping them is putting down the rope and going after them. It’s like if everyone was pushing on a fake fire escape in a burning building: the first step to getting them out of there is showing them that the door is just painted on the wall and doesn’t lead anywhere. That’s not telling them to give up hope, it’s just telling them to give up on an ineffective strategy.

Perhaps Johnstone didn’t go far enough here. Americans go in for assault rifles, not BB guns. But she’s surely right that you’re not going to reform this system from within, i.e. from pulling harder on the Democrat or Republican rope. You need to stop playing an unwinnable game.

Organize. Vote third party when a sane candidate is available. Stop donating to DINOs and their even more dubious Republican cousins. Protest. Tell others. You never know what will be the spark that ignites true and meaningful change.

110 thoughts on “Democrats, Republicans, and the Need for Alternatives

  1. Sadly we can’t even seem to get DINOS in ..the move right has been in action for a long time and continues at full steam especially through the churches which are really right wing repubican.

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    1. Yes. The DINOs thought people would have no choice but to vote for them, given how “extreme” the Republicans have become. Turns out that DINO strategy and posturing have backfired as they discover there’s much more room on the right than they ever envisioned. The Democratic leadership (Biden, Pelosi, Schumer), meanwhile, is about as uninspiring as you can imagine.

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      1. The biggest DINO of all is the speaker of the United States House of Representatives ! Until this corrupt woman is deposed the Democrat Party is a lost cause for progressive voters!

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        1. Absolutely! She and her husband are worth at least $100 million. She didn’t get all that money because she’s brilliant at investing.

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          1. Isn’t it worse than that isn’t Lt.Co. Jimmy reports in this Video that her net worth was $242,150,150 in 2018.

            And she is 82-years old, having served as a U.S. representative from California since 1987. 35-years (!) This is her fourth term as speaker of the House! She announced in January 2022 that she would seek reelection as a U.S. representative that year, though she had pledged in 2018 to not seek the speakership again.
            Term Limits anybody?

            Those dumb arses in the California’s 12th congressional district, which comprises most of San Francisco, just keep electing her over and over and over. Voting against their own best interests. San Francisco is a shithole – to use a Trump term.

            In the wake of Bush’s 2004 reelection, leading House Democrats pushed for impeachment proceedings against Bush, asserting that he had misled Congress about WMD in Iraq and violated Americans’ civil liberties by authorizing warrantless wiretaps. In May 2006, with an eye on the upcoming congressional elections—which offered the possibility of Democrats taking back control of the House for the first time since 1994—Pelosi told colleagues that, while the Democrats would conduct vigorous oversight of Bush administration policy, an impeachment investigation was “off the table”.

            In 2002, while Pelosi was the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, she was briefed on the ongoing use of “enhanced interrogation techniques”, including waterboarding, authorized for a captured terrorist, Abu Zubaydah. After the briefing, Pelosi said she “was assured by lawyers with the CIA and the Department of Justice that the methods were legal”! Which was bullshit!

            Pelosi voted against the 1995 Balanced Budget Proposed Constitutional Amendment, which passed the House by a 300–132 vote, but fell two votes short of the 2/3 supermajority required in the Senate with 65 senators voting in favor!

            She does not endorse Senator Bernie Sanders’s bill for single-payer healthcare – her biggest donors being Insurance Companies and big Pharma.

            In March 2009, the New York Post wrote that the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch had obtained emails sent by Pelosi’s staff requesting the United States Air Force to provide specific aircraft—a Boeing 757— for Pelosi to use for taxpayer-funded travel! Why not eh?

            In January 2018, Pelosi referred to Trump’s 2018 State of the Union Address as a performance without serious policy ideas the parties could collaborate on. She questioned Trump’s refusal to implement Russian sanctions after more than 500 members of Congress voted to approve them! 500-votes – pfffft!

            Pelosi tore up her copy of Trump’s 2020 State of the Union Address speech. Her stated reason for doing so was “Because it was a courteous thing to do considering the alternatives. It was a such a dirty speech.” Democracy in action eh? Reaching across the aisle – not!

            Why people keep voting for this women who has done so much harm to middle class working Americans is a mystery of the ages!

            This is a sick thing to say – but maybe she will die in office like her most admired colleague in Congress John McCain. (BTW Since 1973, 84 Members of Congress—69 Representatives and 15 Senators—have died in office. What does that tell you eh?)

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            1. If she does, the establishment will laud her as a “trailblazer,” “One of the greatest Speakers in history,” a “Lioness of the Congress,” a “Mama Bear who fought for her cubs,” blah blah blah.

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              1. What’s sad is that your prediction is almost a certainty. Empty, shallow theater it will be. All those in “the Club” will trip over themselves to pay homage.

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                1. @ALEX

                  Robert Kagan (born September 26, 1958) is an American neoconservative scholar, critic of U.S. foreign policy, and a leading advocate of liberal interventionism. Married to Victoria Fuck the EU Nuland.

                  A co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century he is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Kagan has been a foreign policy adviser to U.S. Republican presidential candidates as well as Democratic administrations via the Foreign Affairs Policy Board. He writes a monthly column on world affairs for The Washington Post. During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kagan left the Republican Party due to the party’s nomination of Donald Trump and endorsed the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, for President!

                  In February 2016, Kagan publicly left the Republican party (referring to himself as a “former Republican”) and endorsed Democrat Hillary Clinton for President He argued that the Republican Party’s “wild obstructionism” and an insistence that “government, institutions, political traditions, party leadership and even parties themselves” were things meant to be “overthrown, evaded, ignored, insulted, laughed at” set the stage for the rise of Donald Trump.

                  Oh dear – a right-wing nut job. Unelected, and in a position of too much power. A Deep State critter for sure.

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                2. Robert’s brother is Frederick, their father was Donald. Donald and Frederick were principal authors of the Iraq WMD warning that justified GWB’s Iraq war. Frederick is the president of the American Enterprise Institute. Frederick’s wife, Kimberly is the President of the Institute of War. Hawks all. Very influential the whole family, as I understand it.

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            2. Dennis, it’s also true that in the recent impeachment efforts she was the one who limited the scope of the impeachment in late 2019. The Dims could have gone after Trump on a number of charges related to emoluments clause violations, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, perjury, tax evasion, etc. Pelosi wanted to wrap up the proceedings before the 2020 election, as it was important that we get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. She’s a perfect symbol of the modern Democratic Party – the sooner it goes the way of the Whigs, the better.

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  2. Won’t happen in the US. Farming has been corporatized and now factory farming dominates! And these corporations are happy with the status quo. Biden, and the “do-nothing” Democrats are not going to rock the boat. And of course these corporations are huge Republican donors!

    “When the vast expanse of rural Iowa was carved up for settlers in the 19th century, it was often divided into 160-acre lots. Four farms made a square mile, with a crisscross of dead-straight roads marking the boundaries like a sprawling chess board. Within each square, generations of families tended pigs and cattle, grew oats and raised children, with the sons most likely to take over the farm.

    That is how Barb Kalbach saw the future when she left her family’s land to marry and begin farming with her new husband, Jim, 47 years ago. “When we very first were married, we had cattle and calves,” she says. “We raised hogs from farrow to finish, and we had corn, beans, hay and oats. So did everyone around us.”

    Half a century later, Kalbach surveys the destruction within the section of chessboard she shared with other farms near Dexter in southwestern Iowa. Barb and Jim are the last family still working the land, after their neighbours were picked off by waves of collapsing commodity prices and the rise of factory farming. With that came a vast transfer in wealth as farm profits funnelled into corporations or the diminishing number of families that own an increasing share of the land. Rural communities have been hollowed out.

    And while the Kalbachs have hung on to their farm, they long ago abandoned livestock and mixed arable farming for the only thing they can make money at any more – growing corn and soya beans to sell to corporate buyers as feed for animals crammed by the thousands into the huge semi-automated sheds that now dominate farming, and the landscape, in large parts of Iowa.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/09/american-food-giants-swallow-the-family-farms-iowa

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  3. So if I understand it there are no real Democrats in Congress any more because they’ve all given in to moneyed interests? And the MIC, as we can see with the vote on $40 billion to Ukraine etc., as all the Dems in both houses of Congress voted for it. Even Bernie Sanders.

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    1. I didn’t extend my critique to every Democrat in Congress, but you certainly could. The Ukraine vote was a killer.

      When most Democrats are virtually indistinguishable from what the Republican Party was under President Reagan, one can conclude the Democratic Party has almost ceased to exist.

      The funny thing is that the media pushes the narrative that Biden is too far left! That he needs to be more moderate, move to the right, etc., to heal America.

      There is no Left in America with any power whatsoever.

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  4. The Senate voted 86 -11. The House voted 368-57. Your understanding is correct Alex!
    Illustrating why voting Democrat if you are anti-war is against your interest.

    Senators who voted against the bill: All Republicans!!!!!!
    So much for peace-loving Democrats eh?
    Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
    Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.)
    Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.)
    Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
    Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.)
    Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
    Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
    Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
    Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.)
    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
    Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.)

    Senators who did not vote: Too gutless to show their hand !
    Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
    Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-Nev.)
    Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.)

    House Representatives who voted against the bill: All Republican! No! Are you kidding me?
    All those Democrats, you know, for the poor working people, voted for the MIC
    Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-Texas)
    Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas)
    Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.)
    Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.)
    Rep. Gus Bilirakis (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Dan Bishop (R-N.C.)
    Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.)
    Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.)
    Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Kat Cammack (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.)
    Rep. Michael Cloud (R-Texas)
    Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.)
    Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.)
    Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio)
    Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.)
    Rep. Ron Estes (R-Kan.)
    Rep. Russ Fulcher (R-Idaho)
    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-Ohio)
    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
    Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.)
    Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)
    Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.)
    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)
    Rep. Diana Harshbarger (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.)
    Rep. Kevin Hern (R-Okla.)
    Rep. Yvette Herrell (R-N.M.)
    Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)
    Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.)
    Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.)
    Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Texas)
    Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.)
    Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio)
    Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.)
    Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.)
    Rep. Tracey Mann (R-Kan.)
    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.)
    Rep. Brian Mast (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Mary Miller (R-Ill.)
    Rep. Barry Moore (R-Ala.)
    Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas)
    Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.)
    Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.)
    Rep. John Rose (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Mont.)
    Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas)
    Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas)
    Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Tom Tiffany (R-Wis.)
    Rep. Jeff Van Drew (R-N.J.)
    Rep. Beth Van Duyne (R-Texas)
    Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-Ark.)
    Rep. Roger Williams (R-Texas)

    Members who didn’t vote: Gutless!
    Rep. Ami Bera (D-Calif.)
    Rep. David McKinley (R-W.Va.)
    Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.)
    Rep. Marilyn Strickland (D-Wash.)
    Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.)

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    1. I think the party constituencies have switched somewhat. Democrat voters now tend to be highly educated and highly paid. Their big financial support comes from Silicon Valley and hedge fund managers. Trump voters at least are from the traditional working class, lower educated and lower paid. Mostly what the Dems want for the traditional working class is to give them trillions of dollars in benefits that their children will have to pay for as the traditional working class still believes in having children. One of Biden’s significant achievements to date is the flood of Central Americans coming in through the southern border (2 million and counting). He thinks they will supply the Party with loyal voters and his moneyed interests see them as cheap labor and customers for their products. The traditional working class is against it of course.

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    1. These well intentioned dreamers were pushing this agenda, which looks OK in theory, 3-years ago.
      On paper it looks like a better idea than pushing for a 3rd Party – which is a road to nowhere in the US.
      Now far have they got? How about – nowhere!

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  5. The UK realized that they were totally up Shit Creek (excuse my French) with their leader and to their credit have done something about it. Boris is gone!
    Will the US people wake up to Biden’s devastating absolute incompetency, and do the same?
    Does the US system have in place means to fire Joe Biden?
    Or will that mean Kamala Harris becomes President?

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    1. Via the 25th Amendment, a president can be removed from office, and the VP would become president.

      We can’t “fire” Biden; we can’t have a vote of “no confidence.” Barring a major setback to Biden’s health (physical or mental), it’s likely we’re stuck with him until January of 2025.

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    2. Maybe Boris can get a job in the Zelenskyy government. They’ve seen each other often enough the job interviews should be over.

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  6. Kamala Harris as President! Holy cow!
    Will that finally wake up Americans from their slumber that their electoral System sucks?
    This is a women who nobody voted for and dropped out of the Democrat primaries.
    Harris spent $39.7 million on her campaign and dropping out despite “fucking moving to Iowa” as a final effort to spark energy for her campaign. She ended her push with about three percent support in the Iowa polls but dropped out before the caucuses began.

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    1. Never in the field of Democratic politics has so much been spent for so little by so inconsequential a candidate.

      She’s so bad she makes Joe Biden look good.

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    2. She was Biden’s choice. There’s a fair amount of speculation that he chose her because he knew she’d be a terrible choice for President which meant the party needed to stick with him instead. Insurance in other words.

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      1. I wonder. I know Jill Biden was against her.

        The Democrats are enthralled with optical diversity. They couldn’t let a white guy run with another white guy (or gal). Harris — woman, Black, Asian, provided “diversity.”

        The problem is she’s a Hillary Clinton clone with perhaps even less charisma. And that’s saying a lot.

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  7. Sky News Australia is a rabid right-wing Rupert Murdoch owned outfit.
    But Holy Cow! The whole World, left and right, sees that poor old Joe is barely hanging in there, let alone being the President of the most powerful nation on the Globe!
    And you don’t have to follow World geopolitics very much to realize that the whole World realizes that the governance of the USA is in real trouble for the next two years

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    1. I have sympathy for Biden and his struggles. But he obviously shouldn’t run again in 2024, and I fear he may not even make it to 2024 as president.

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      1. Lt. Col, I don’t think anybody thinks for one minute that Joe is going to run again in 2024! Not even one of the grovelling Democrat sycophants thinks so surely.

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        1. I am not as certain of this. The Democrats are desperate, and the bench is empty. Harris? Mayor Pete? Hillary? They seem to have no one but Joe at this point.

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          1. I would bet the Democrats have some reasonable Governors/Senators etc. It’s just that the party prefers people in the news. And in the recent past no one really wanted to challenge the Big Money of the Clinton apparatus.

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          2. John Hickenlooper. Former mayor of Denver, Governor of Colorado, current Senator from Colorado. Worked as a geologist.

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            1. @ALEX,
              Hickenlooper….LOL…isn’t that name disqualifying right off the bat! President Hickenlooper! LOL

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              1. There you go. To be a candidate you have to have the right name. To be a candidate for the Democratic nomination you have to be 1) a Socialist, 2) a figurehead, 3) Hillary Clinton, 4) gay. To be a candidate for the Republican nomination you have to be 1) Donald Trump, 2) a governor or a senator.

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                1. Oh, Alex. I wish we had socialists.

                  You might say Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, but I’d like to know who are the prominent “socialists” in the Democratic Party today. I don’t see any Eugene Debs-types out there, do you?

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                2. @WJASTORE

                  I swatted up on Debs this morning Lt. Col. Interesting. His sedition conviction and appeal to U.S. Supreme Court makes for fascinating reading. He sure was man of convictions. And the percentage of votes he got truly discouraging. I think “socialism” was a much more dirty word in the US in the 1900’s.

                  Eugene Victor “Gene” Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American socialist, political activist, trade unionist, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), and five times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States. Through his presidential candidacies as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United State

                  He led a boycott by the ARU against handling trains with Pullman cars in what became the nationwide Pullman Strike, affecting most lines west of Detroit and more than 250,000 workers in 27 states. Purportedly to keep the mail running, President Grover Cleveland used the United States Army to break the strike. As a leader of the ARU, Debs was convicted of federal charges for defying a court injunction against the strike and served six months in prison.

                  In prison, Debs read various works of socialist theory and emerged six months later as a committed adherent of the international socialist movement. Debs was a founding member of the Social Democracy of America (1897), the Social Democratic Party of America (1898) and the Socialist Party of America (1901). Debs ran as a Socialist candidate for President of the United States five times, including 1900 (earning 0.6 percent of the popular vote), 1904 (3.0 percent), 1908 (2.8 percent), 1912 (6.0 percent), and 1920 (3.4 percent), the last time from a prison cell. He was also a candidate for United States Congress from his native state Indiana in 1916.

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                3. @ALEX
                  For the RepubliCONS, you forgot a gameshow host, or a B-Grade Hollywood Actor
                  And for the DEmoRATS, you forgot peanut farmer

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                4. Ron DeSantis, governor, is a leading Republican candidate for 2024. The leading Democrat candidate for 2024 is Joe Biden who Joe Rogan describes as “a dead man”.

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                5. @ALEX.
                  Don’t forget The Peoples Party – with Jimmy Dore running for President.
                  And of course the corrupt Democratic Party in what ever stare they try to run in will be disqualified from being on the ballot!
                  https://peoplesparty.org/

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                6. Bernie calls himself a socialist. Or a democratic-socialist, whatever that means. AOC calls herself the same. Traditionally socialism had to do with the working class, the private sector, unions, etc., and modern Democrats tend to go straight from law school to politics with no private sector work in between. If there’s any private sector work it tends to be a bar as in bartender/cocktail waitress.

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  8. “On the evening of Sept. 25, 1919, Edith Wilson, wife of President Woodrow Wilson and First Lady of the United States of America, found her husband on the floor of his bathroom, in the middle of a stroke. Within a few weeks, he was completely bedridden, unable to take meetings or attend to his daily duties.

    Unwilling to hand the presidency over to Wilson’s vice president, Thomas Marshall, for fear that it would crush her fragile Woodrow, Edith Wilson decided she would serve as proxy for the president until he was well enough to resume his duties. For the next several months, Edith Wilson went from FLOTUS to POTUS, becoming the de-facto president, and running the country in her husband’s absence.

    There was just one problem with Edith’s stewardship – while the country had elected Woodrow Wilson, they had not elected Edith Wilson, the woman who was now, effectively, in charge. But, at the time, the legislation in place that detailed presidential succession was vague, and only really outlined what to do in the event of a presidential death.

    Woodrow wasn’t dead, Edith argued, he was simply minorly incapacitated, and just needed a hand – a hand she was more than capable of giving, so why go through all the fuss to inaugurate the Vice President.
    On top of her claims, Vice President Thomas Marshall agreed, as Woodrow wasn’t dead, he didn’t need to take over the office.

    Eventually, roughly one year and five months later, Woodrow Wilson recovered enough to take his duties back. The country, thankfully, had not passed through any particularly trying times while he was out, and no major crisis had come up. He was able to finish out his reign without consequence, and hand over a country, still in one piece, to his successor.

    However, though he was once again President, and Edith once again First Lady, presidential staff members would continue to claim that though there was one official president, there may have been another one hiding behind the scenes”.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/edith-wilson

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    1. Traditionally American Presidents served for no more than 2 terms, following George Washington’s self-imposed limit. Then FDR decided to challenge that, running for re-election in 1940. He succeeded, and was set for serving two additional terms, finally dying in 1945. Who knows how long he would have gone on had he lived? Congress in 1947 passed the 22nd Amendment (ratified in 1951) to make sure it didn’t happen again.

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      1. Is the thought that Jill Biden could emulate Edith Wilson a real one?
        I mean who is running the US nowadays?
        Its the Deep State* right? I believe that.
        So they just keep old Joe in his bathrobe at home – and make Jill the face of the President – sparingly.
        Do you think the Deep State could pull that off for 2-years?

        *The modern concept of a deep state – a presumed secret network of military officers and their civilian allies trying to preserve the secular order. A hybrid association of government elements and parts of top-level industry (MIC) and finance that is effectively able to govern without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process………..isn’t that what the US has as we speak?

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        1. The way I look at Biden is that people under him come with stuff for him to sign and he just signs it without either reading it or understanding it. And then they tell him what to say. He’s the ultimate special interest President.

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          1. So Alex…Who are these “people under him come with stuff for him to sign”?
            Which begs the question who is running the US? Who are these people?
            The Congress you say. I dunno about that.

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            1. Nancy Pelosi is all that matters as far as legislation is concerned IMHO. I’ve heard that Ron Klain, WH Chief of Staff has an outsized influence. His duties include “Directing, managing and overseeing all policy development.” Interesting change from a position that used to be essentially the President’s private secretary. I’ve heard the Janet Yellen, Treasury Secretary, is directing our economic warfare against our enemies on the sanctions list. Hmm. I wonder if that makes Treasury part of the Military-Industrial Complex. Wouldn’t Ike be surprised?

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              1. And don’t forget – Victoria Fuck the EU Nuland (born July 1, 1961) currently serving as Biden’s Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. Nuland, a former member of the foreign service, served as the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State from 2013 to 2017 and US Permanent Representative to NATO from 2005 to 2008.

                This woman is Biden’s Warmonger-in-Chief. Never seen a foreign country she does not want regime in!

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  9. ….The last real Democratic President was Jimmy Carter. The last U.S. election offering a real alternative vision was George McGovern versus Richard Nixon in 1972….. Lt. Col I would argue that it was Reagan versus Carter.

    Compare this fantastic debate to the absolute joke and charade the Presidential debates have become nowadays.

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    1. Now the debates are between the Republican candidate and the (Democratic candidate & moderators). If Biden gets the nomination again the debates will be between the Republican candidate and the moderators. Biden will be in the corner.

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    1. Joe Rogan is probably right: He wouldn’t get the “real” Trump. He’d get a performance. And how can you have a real conversation with someone who’s so good at being a phony?

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      1. Yes that’s an interesting thought Lt. Col. But don’t you think that any public figure, specially a politician, “puts on a performance”, to preserve and promote his/her image? In fact the very definition of a politician is “a person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement within an organization.”

        Yes, this is the derogatory meaning, but is Trump any more of a phony that say Obama? Given that Barack Obama, when he was not charming our pants off with his great speeches, off the stage did literally nothing he promised. Was he not just as good at being a phony? Surely, one mans phony is another mans authentic genius. And of course in the election – 50% of Americans thought Trump was a authentic genius, and 50% thought he was a phoney.

        I frankly thing Joe Rogan could have as great a conversation with Trump as he did with Bernie Sanders, Jesse Ventura or Sam Harris. Joe is no idiot, with his 10-million viewers per podcast. I’d like to hear him and Trump.

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        1. Yes, of course you’re right, Dennis, that nearly all politicians are dissemblers and chameleons and con men (and women).

          It sounds like Joe Rogan just doesn’t want to deal with Trump’s BS. Can’t say that I blame him.

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          1. You know I think Joe is scared to take on Trump! He eluded to the fact in this video that he did not know enough about the issues, and would have to do a lot of homework first. And made the excuse that he did not have time for that. My read is that he feels he would be way over matched by Trumps BS.

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    2. He doesn’t want to help Trump so he hasn’t invited him. And he certainly wouldn’t have Biden. And HRC would not accept even if she was invited. During the 2020 campaign Rogan offered to moderate an extended debate between Trump and Biden. Trump said yes but Biden apparently said no. Biden wouldn’t have been able to stand up to it. He needs members of the MSM there to support him. Even more so in 2024 if he runs.

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  10. Lt. Col. Astore, Another good, concise, on-the-money post.

    I’m glad you saw fit to mention & quote Caitlyn Johnstone here. I often feel i’m dealing with a brother when I read your posts, and with hers, a sister.

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  11. A commenter here points out Ross Perot dropped out of the race and lost a huge chunk of his support and momentum. When he re-entered the race he got the anemic results. Before he dropped out he was on his way to being a huge factor.

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      1. I don’t see Bernie mentioned on their Website Alex. I do see Cornell West, Chris Hedges, Oliver Stone, Jimmy Dore. Nina Turner, Marianne Williamson, Danny Glover and Senator Mike Gravel.
        And do I see they have 100K signatures to get on the ballot in California?

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        1. Nick Brana, founder, was Bernie’s National Political Outreach Coordinator in 2016. Elise Mysels, National Organizing Director, also worked on Sanders 2016 campaign. This from their platform statement: “This People’s Platform emerged from Bernie Sanders’ first presidential campaign platform.”

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  12. I wonder about the absence of what was once called the press. In the old days of newspapers, this or that paper would come out strongly for this or that candidate. By the sale of papers, often two editions a day, the popularity of the candidate could be judged while at the same time the program of the candidate was promoted. Let the reader judge, and the papers did not talk down to their readers. The man on the street could instantly see headlines at a newsstand. Read all about it was not only shouted out by newsboys but eagerly taken up by the public. One knew the alignment of a paper with a politician and this was always a consideration when reading for meaning.

    Articles and editorials went on at length and were avidly read. Nodody complained, as many do today, that an essay was too long. There were public intellectuals and notables whose newspaper columns were followed precisely because of their good thinking. Walter Lippman and Eleanor Roosevelt to mention only two addressing what the nation was to do, boldly and courageously. Can you think of one public intellectual today?

    Now there are a million diversions from politics and only a few newspapers remain, rare the city with more than one, all hoping to stay above water in presenting this side/that side with care not to endorse anyone until a week or a month before an election. Yes, Fox News is an exception (modern “yellow journalism”) but along with other TV news outlets it avoids reason, stays on the surface, panders to the sensational and superficial. Rachel Maddow is a showman hyping up the crowd. Sunday news shows? Empty talk.

    At the TV station where I worked, there was commentary by one of the news anchors and an editorial given by the general manager of the station, each a five minute opportunity to work on the issues of the day, five minutes being an eternity on TV. Both were cancelled and not missed because they were presented by two otherwise intelligent men in important positions who, given a platform in front of the public clearly wanted to say nothing of significance that would put their images and high incomes at risk.

    There are sites to go like those of Glenn Greenwald and Chris Hedges that keep with the tradition of in depth analysis, but they are for most people lost in the noise of our world of communication that is primarily tapped through social media giants like Facebook that feel no responsibility at all to the body politic.

    Here on BA I have put forth reasoned arguments, in particular on the gun issue, that I have come up with on my own. I’m very distressed at their novelty, as they are not deep thoughts by any means, resulting merely from reflection instead of emotion. I haven’t come across others putting out basic reasoning that should be front and center in the debate about guns. It is appalling how easily the conversation is limited to the infantile “good guy with a gun” theme or the equally inane “if guns are illegal only criminals will have guns.”

    My point is that the national political debate, as the cartoon above illustrates, has dropped to a very low level, where slogans and emotions are pushed, and the major news outlets are afraid to stand with reason, it doesn’t sell. The irony is this takes place in an unprecedented, virtually unlimited world of communication where all is out there if one will look carefully with reason uppermost in the search. Thinking about issues, something that kept crowds listening to Lincoln and Douglas for hours, is now avoided if there is an alternative, and the alternatives are endless.

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    1. How true. Tweets, bumper stickers, slogans, soundbites, selfies, and TikTok videos are the new Lincoln-Douglas debates.

      It’s not good news, for sure.

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  13. CLIY, I can only speak to this from own experience as a 74-year old sitting alone in my apartment at this laptop in far away New Zealand. I find tons of excellent political debate online – one hundred times more than I could have experienced back in the day of two newspapers in my city. I can spend all day reading quality analysis from the likes of Glen Greenwald and Chis Hedges. And have free will to visit both left and right views. For me they are not lost in the noise of our world of communication that is primarily tapped through social media giants. I don’t do Facebook, Instagram etc.

    And I like to think that I see as much of the issues of today whether I am sitting in Seattle or Wellington. Having retired from living 41-years in Seattle back to my home country of New Zealand 4-years ago, I find that I am now more up to speed on American politics than I was in Seattle.

    And the added bonus is that I can discuss the political issues of the day on sites like this with like-minded well informed people like yourself. My thinking about issues, something that kept crowds listening to Lincoln and Douglas for hours, is tremendously enhanced. And it helps me with my loneliness and keeps my brain from atrophy. And I never have to recycle tons of newspapers!

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  14. Oh, and of course I have the bonus of being able to learn something new every day without having to leave this apartment. Yesterday for example our host bought up Eugene Debs. Being a relative newcomer to US political history I knew little, if anything, about him. But with Google and Wikipedia I was able to read all about this great socialist American politician. Back in the day, I would have had to go to the library to do that. And in New Zealand the library probably would not have had Eugene Debs books. So when people try to tell me we not better off with the internet -I just shake my head.
    Sorry for spelling your name wrong – oldtimers typo!

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  15. For example, what these young kids are doing is incredible. I admire them for this.
    Gives us old fogies faith that the kids nowadays are are not all dope heads!
    You could never have got this type of analyses from reading the newspapers back in the day.

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  16. And you could not get this reading your newspaper back in the day.
    And you can’t get it on your TV today either. They won’t touch this!
    The internet has revolutionised what we can be exposed in.

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  17. @CLIF9710
    Reading your great post again this afternoon, can I respectfully comment on your paragraph about gun control in the US. It does not make sense that……..(ideas) that I have come up with on my own. I’m very distressed at their novelty, as they are not deep thoughts by any means, resulting merely from reflection instead of emotion. I haven’t come across others putting out basic reasoning that should be front and center in the debate about guns……

    There are literally dozens of extensive analyses and article on the internet about gun control in all other countries of the World. Google “Gun Control in Australia”, or “Gun Control in Great Britain”. And read about how other countries have approached this – and their success rates. And think how these approaches could work in the US. This is not some great unresearched area where you are starting from scratch with only ideas of your own.

    And don’t beat on me for saying this. But one thing that always irked me in my 41-years living and working in Seattle with great Americans – they can be so insular. If it wasn’t invented in America, then it wasn’t worth inventing. And that there is only one way to light a camp fire – the American way! And that’s just not true. Other cultures often have better ideas!

    And the answers to gun control in the US are out there – staring you in the face – all it takes is the political will to adopt them.

    Thanks for listening to me.

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  18. @CLIF9710
    This used to drive my American friends crazy! Look at a map of the North American continent. A huge land mass with an imaginary line across it from West to East. The American/Canadian border. To the South of that imaginary line there is tons of gun violence. To the North of that line – their is a fraction of the gun violence per capita. Same demographics. With the right to bear arms ending at the Canadian border.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-04-18/gun-laws-in-canada-are-more-reasonable-than-those-in-america#xj4y7vzkg

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    1. Bloomberg is famously anti-gun so consider the source. Michael B. of course has bodyguards who carry guns (he’s in the nobility class after all so that’s fine with him). Justin T. used recent shootings in the US to push for his preferred solution for Canada: ban all pistols and all rifles except some hunting rifles after he decided (for everyone) that no one needs them. What a great idea (sarc). Some government functionary deciding what everybody “needs”. Do we need meat? Or cars? Pizza? Maybe he will decide we “need” constant war with other countries. Interesting approach to policy. Just implement your solution and say everyone “needs” it. Henry VIII couldn’t have said it better. Stay tuned. I hear JT even wants to ban BB guns. Will NERF guns be next?

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      1. Pistols are tightly regulated in New Zealand. They can only be owned by active members of a pistol shooting club. There is a register of all pistols in New Zealand.

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  19. Dennis, thanks for your responses. I don’t take issue with anything you’ve just posted, and I think I said as much, that the truth is out there, but it isn’t in our faces as it was in the newspaper days when political discussion of some depth was unavoidable for any American that could read. People looked forward to the daily papers, read them on the way to/from work and at home.

    Political debate was informed because consumption of political news was considered a regular part of daily life for a country on the move and if you didn’t have something to say you weren’t part of the social world. Stories in the newspapers were reported by genuine journalists, professionals who prided themselves on their ability to background every story with years of experience on the beat. TV started out in this tradition but degraded steadily coming to be what we know today: beautiful, stylish (and now multiethnic!) talking heads of TV, who, even if they wanted to do so, would not be given the time necessary to expand on any story in the interest of informing the public. There’s a good chance the public would not watch it anyway.

    I applaud your searching for and finding good stuff. I do it myself. We can hold forth with valuable thoughts here on BV because we have the information, information that should be foreground for anyone in a democracy but is very much in the background.

    It’s a fact that Google can find a million things in a fraction of a second. What could be more of an invitation to do some mental exploration? But it isn’t happening. We here visit sites that are unknown to most Americans. I use Glenn Greenwald as an example. He should certainly be well known for his intimate connection with the Snowden revelations, the one and only party that Snowden trusted. I make it a point to ask people in person if they have ever heard of Greenwald, since I’d think after the Snowden revelations people would want to follow up on items from similar non-mainstream sources. I’m waiting for my first yes on knowing of Greenwald.

    It’s the “leave me alone” mental state of the average person that is a problem. You’ve mentioned how your family members are resistant to hearing your views to the point that you now withhold those views simply to get along easily in their company. I maintain that the reception you’ve found is typically the fate of any who are informed and ready to relate what they know to others, even, maybe especially, friends and family.

    In short, “I don’t want to think about it” could be the American motto and business is more than happy with that, offering anything and everything that can be consumed without thought.

    I have a group of buddies, my peers from high school days. We are spread out across the country but in almost daily and certainly weekly contact over the years. I don’t think any of them read books, certainly not as a habit. What you and I do, Dennis, is what every mind needs to stay fully functional. You might agree with me that we feed on it. But the driving force of modernity is the search for convenience. Work, mental or physical, is to be avoided. Remember the old National Enquirer ad, “Enquiring Minds Want to Know”? Quite a statement for a sleazy rag, but to the point here – if a mind is not enquiring, it will not know much that is significant and if what one knows has come without effort, it is very unlikely to be the truth.

    John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were wise men. If their voluminous correspondence is an indication, they never lost their sense of wonder at the world or their openness to changing their opinions in argument with each other and their peers, welcoming it in fact. Their egos were not fragile, they had a basis for their views for which they could instantly offer good reasoning that anyone who differed would have to counter with reasoning. This was only possible for them because they were at all times reflecting on what they thought, sculpting it but never into a fixed form. This habit is now all but extinct. Noam Chomsky does it and will for his few remaining years.

    I think modern Americans are a lost people, who don’t know who they are or what they might be, what they could be. They avoid introspection/reflection out of fear of it while swimming in what pleasures, cheap and everywhere available, are offered for sale. The rage we see too commonly in America is from feeling helpless by those who see no way out of it and want to place blame on others. They seem to be unaware that though the western frontier is long gone, there is always a frontier within the self and each of us should always be there.

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    1. Thanks for the long reply CLIF. I appreciate it. I don’t take issue with anything you’ve just posted either.

      …….What you and I do, Dennis, is what every mind needs to stay fully functional. You might agree with me that we feed on it………sadly, I have become hooked on surfing the internet. As bad as any drug habit I would say. I have been sitting here alone all afternoon waiting for someone to reply to my posts. I live alone, and with no one to talk to, like you for instance, I am struggling. Getting a reply like yours helps me make it through the day.
      Take care my friend.

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      1. I have two doctor daughters. One in NY, one in WI. Both very successful with busy practices of well to do socioeconomic patients. Of course now we only talk on the phone or by text and email. I don’t think they are a lost people, who don’t know who they are or what they might be, what they could be. They live full lives. Both very liberal and very active in the Democratic Party. But I find their need for deep enquiry into things that are not in their bubble is not what they want to do. My critics of the Democratic Party go down like lead balloons. They are not interested, and very resistant, to discussing the corruptness of the Party like we do here on BV. And since one of my main interests at 74-years old is geopolitics, we sadly have little to talk about other than convivial. chatter. I wish it was otherwise. It is what it is.

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        1. Regarding my comment about the lost, I think the best way to bring to life what I wrote is to take a trip to any Bob Evans restaurant across the country to see the people of the heartland, note the physical condition of most people there and the kind of vehicles parked in the parking lot then think of what science tells us about the health of the human body as the obesity rate in America continues to climb and of the natural world subject to steadily advancing global warming as glaciers disappear. Both are clear, pressing issues that those in a democracy should be addressing personally (health) and through their representatives (warming). They aren’t. It isn’t a coincidence that the maintenance of the status quo is very profitable to businesses – restaurants, the healthcare system, fossil fuels.

          I know you’ll recall JFK’s words, “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” As it has worked out, neither option is being pursued while the people bicker in animosity. The government of, by and for the people has in that regard ground to a halt while business is buzzing along and regulations fall one after another, the Supreme Court leading the way. If the people feel helpless what possible hope is there for democracy that rests on the actions of the people? The lost are those who cannot see what towers in front of their eyes, that the old saying, “the business of America is business” has come true. And this brings me right back to the cartoon placed at the top by WJA.

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            1. The US, 3% of the World population, guzzles 25% of the Worlds fossil fuel! This statistic always blows my mind!

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          1. Good point. Social aspects, including connections, business, scholarships, opportunities, jobs, or just parties and fun.

            I’m more of an issue- and idea-driven person. I don’t want to schmooze, get to know lots of people, grow my business, help my son or daughter get into college, etc.

            Political parties are about more than policies and platforms, that’s for sure.

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      2. The irony of being addicted to the internet but needing the internet to give you idea’s on how to break the addiction.

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  20. @CLIF9710
    …………The rage we see too commonly in America is from feeling helpless by those who see no way out of it and want to place blame on others…… I think the biggest factor is the gradual loss of opportunities for all Americans. For the middle class, and particularly the poor. And as we have discussed in this thread, the dysfunctionality of the political system – with people feeling that their vote is meaningless. You can’t blame them for wanting to place blame on others. They are working there arses off and going backwards. The America I left in 2018 is not the America I emigrated to in 1974.

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  21. @CLIF9710
    But its not only young American kids who feelin the pinch Clif. All over the Western World young people are finding their lives increasingly unbearable.

    “Many New Zealanders – particularly young professionals and graduates – are heading off oversea driven by tough economic conditions in New Zealand, which is dealing with high inflation of 6.9%, housing unaffordability, and sky-high living costs: petrol, rents, mortgage interest rates and groceries are all on the rise.”

    https://education-today.com.au/more-people-leaving-new-zealand-than-entering-as-young-flee-high-cost-of-living-new-zealand

    We are seeing a whole generation of young people now waking up to the fact that their lives are going to be worse than their parent’s. These young Kiwi’s are going to find out, wherever they end up, that Neoliberal Capitalistic policies in the last 30-years Worldwide, that favors greatly reduced government spending, deregulation, globalization, free trade, and privatization, have only been to the benefit of the rich and to the extreme detriment to everybody else.

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    1. Lately I’ve been reading a jaw dropping book called “Operation Gladio” by Paul Williams published in 2018. I haven’t got very far (only to page 69) but so far, if what I’m reading is even relatively accurate, it would appear that the OSS and then the CIA have been running the world drug trade for the past 80 years or so. The OSS/CIA got into that because our government didn’t have the money to fund what it wanted to do, and they figured out initially in the 40’s that they could make money by selling drugs to people in Harlem who were already using and no one really cared about “n*&&#ers”. The book spells out how this morphed into a massive drug trade that involved the Catholic church and the Italian Mafia and numerous other things as the CIA plotted to keep communism and Russia from attacking Europe. The idea that Russia was plotting to attack Europe was a fantasy of our state department during and after WWII.
      Williams foot notes extensively and if there is truth to this story, then everything we have been told for the past 80 odd years about foreign policy and much of home grown policy has been a lie. The involvement of the Catholic church in providing the banking system for the CIA so it’s nefarious actions couldn’t be discovered by our banking rules (we’re talking billions of dollars here over decades) is another sad piece of information. This does explain, however, how and why the US has continually been helping fascist organizations to take over countries as we have done time after time over the decades, and are currently doing now in Ukraine.
      I wonder if you have any comment on this situation, or know anything about it?

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      1. If you’re a conspiracy theorist it sounds like there’s a bit of something in there for everyone. At least enough to get you kicked off of Twitter anyway.

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      2. Ranney I am a novice in the area of US political history. I hence have nothing add to your conclusions. But it would not surprise me. You know if there is one institution the US could certainly do without, its the CIA. Dozens of books have been written about this nefarious outfit being in the drug trade at the same time as screwing in the affairs of other countries. Being a New Zealander, I am aware though that the CIA was alleged to be responsible for the overthrowing of our neighbor, Australia’s, Prime Minister. Many Aussies will tell you this was what actually happened.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis#Alleged_CIA_involvement

        “Air America” was a 1990 American action film directed by Roger Spottiswoode and starring Mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr. as Air America pilots flying missions in Laos during the Vietnam War. When the protagonists discover their aircraft is being used by government CIA agents to smuggle heroin, they must avoid being framed as the drug-smugglers. Many claim that the movie was too close to comfort for those in the know!

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      1. I understand the latest shipment of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve went to a Chinese company affiliated with Hunter Biden. So that would be a Bidenonian level of corruption. Or we could consider the Clinton Global Initiative where Bill calls up big business and says well someday Hillary may be President and we’d like to know if we can consider you as friends in which case when can we expect the check. So that would be a Clintonian level of corruption.

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  22. The “if you vote (sign) for candidate X you are really voting (signing) for candidate Y” logic at work in that phone call.

    Here locally, the state rep, very popular and a D was challenged by a R who had a petition that would get him on the ballot against her. She challenged the petition. I saw her in person, explained that I supported her and asked her why she was making this challenge when she knew as did everyone that she would wipe the floor with the guy in the election. It seemed almost malicious to me. She was silent, no answer. I think the answer is that in politics as practiced one should crush any challenge in any way and as soon as it can be done.

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  23. Chilling – this is a fantastic breakdown of the events and how they mirror conditions in the US.

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  24. In todays Seattle Times……

    As Donald Trump weighs whether to open an unusually early White House campaign, a New York Times/Siena College poll shows that his post-presidential quest to consolidate his support within the Republican Party has instead left him weakened, with nearly half the party’s primary voters seeking someone different for president in 2024 and a significant number vowing to abandon him if he wins the nomination.

    President Joe Biden is facing an alarming level of doubt from inside his own party, with 64% of Democratic voters saying they would prefer a new standard-bearer in the 2024 presidential campaign, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll, as voters nationwide have soured on his leadership, giving him a meager 33% job-approval rating.

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  25. The days of gaslighting and convenient amnesia are over now that the internet never forgets. The truth always finds a way out. Thanks Jimmy for continuing to open our eyes about these corrupt Democrats.

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      1. Thanks Alex,
        Tucker Carlson is awesome!
        Imagine how successful Tucker and Jimmy Dore would be running on a 3rd Party ticket?

        I still wonder who is writing Tucker’s scripts at FOX! Is he reading this stuff off a teleprompter?

        This segment is unbelievable – that Americans are actually watching this on their TV! Wow!
        Why aren’t Mexicans paying as much for gasoline as Americans? Wow!
        The Italians are in a better position to take over the World than the Russians are! LOL So true Tucker!
        We are sending bails of $100 bills into war zones hoping they find the right pockets! Wow!
        Samantha Power wrecked the World! Wow Tucker…… way to go!
        How are you going to top this tomorrow night Tucker!!!

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      2. Some good stuff here, but then Tucker goes off on a rant about people taking rifles from bedrooms and sterilizing your kids to make them trans.

        It’s a shame Tucker feels the need to taint solid analysis with fear mongering about guns, trans people, and “Sandy” Cortez (AOC). The horror!

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        1. “When was the last time you watched the news and didn’t feel sad or scared? The majority of the mainstream news is constantly going on about death, terrorism, and hate. It appears that the mainstream news has an obsession with fear mongering. Fear mongering, the use of scare tactics to influence the behavior of people, has run rampant in our society, and it has left those who have noticed to ask why. The answer, surprisingly, is not that complicated, but to find the answer we must first look at the goal of any society.

          The goal of any society is to create ideal conditions for all of its population. This utopian dream, as it appears to me, can never come fruition, however. This is due to the fact that everyone’s ideal conditions depend upon how they see the world, their perspective. For example, for the very rich, we may already be living in what they would consider to be a utopia. They have all the money and resources that they could ever want, meaning they have power, and if there is anything I have learned from George Orwell’s 1984, it is that “power is not a means; it is an end.”

          So what does this have to do with fear mongering? Well, those with power can have a very large influence on the media. Since those with power control most of the things we see in the news, they have the ability to spread whatever information they want, regardless of how true that information is. In the case of the mainstream news, those in power decide to use scare tactics, using fear as a tool to get us to agree with what they want to do. When we agree with what the powerful, or ruling class, want to do, it reinforces the power that the ruling class has over us………………………………”

          https://locomag.com/the-medias-obsession-with-fear-mongering/

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          1. Fear is useful for rulers because our normal reaction is to crave someone to save us from the danger. And there they are! Aren’t we lucky!! (sarcasm)

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